In this podcast episode, host Koehler examines the world of adaptive leadership models and their role in effecting change. through conversation with Mobius transformational faculty member Rosi Greenberg. Listeners will gain understanding of the importance of identity and silence in leadership practice and the potential impact of “messes” created on the path to successful leadership. This episode provides a wealth of inspiring information for leaders seeking to adapt to change and reach their full potential (2022).